From: "sally.mullock" 
To: anglican@list.stsams.org
Subject: Re: Anglican chili?
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 

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From: "Glenn E. Hammett" <bpglenn@mo.quik.com>
> Fill a large dutch oven about half full of meat.

OK, while I don't want to get into the discussion as to what 
and where the right chili is, what pray is a dutch oven?? 
Other than what you would find in a kitchen in Holland??

Love
SallyM - wondering again about our 'shared' language!!

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From: Sibyl Smirl 

"sally.mullock" wrote:

> what pray is a dutch oven?? 

A _humongous_ cast iron skillet or pot with a heavy tight lid.  The originals
had sort of lumpy little legs.  Some things are made now that are not cast iron
that are called "Dutch Ovens" but they are like "chili" with beans--not the real
thing.  The originals were called "ovens" because they could be used on campfire
coals to bake things like biscuits or small cakes or bread inside of (I know you
think biscuits are something else, but I don't know another word for our kind). 
Campers still use them that way.  I don't know where the "Dutch" came from, but
I rather suspect that it should really be German, like our Pennsylvania
Dutch--Americans heard the word "Deutsch" and transformed it to the nation they
were familiar with being called that (btw, how did Hollanders or Nederlanders
get called "Dutch" in the first place?)

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From: "sally.mullock" 

Thanks for the explanation Sibyl!!

Love
SallyM

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From: Ellen Rains Harris 

Sally,

A dutch oven is a skillet about 4-6 inches deep with a fitted lid, always
made from cast iron.

You can throw one in the coals of a campfire and bake a cake or biscuits or
cornbread.

Or you can make chili.

Mrs H

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From: "Sean Kilpatrick" 

On Thu, 07 Feb 2002 11:37:27 -0600, Sibyl Smirl wrote:

>A _humongous_ cast iron skillet or pot with a heavy tight lid. 

Three things distinguish a real "Dutch" oven from the imposters:
cast iron, the "lumpy little" legs, and a deep lip rising above the edge of the lid. 
The oven is set down within a pile of coals generated by an open fire and coals are 
heaped atop the lid (held in place by the aforesaid lip or rim). 
I suspect Sibyl is correct in surmising that the "Dutch" in the name comes the early 
German settlers. But then again, we both could be wrong. <grin>

Sean

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From: "Helen Newton" 

----- Original Message -----
From: Sibyl Smirl >
> A _humongous_ cast iron skillet or pot with a heavy tight lid.  

In Oz, we use them to make damper which is a sort of camp bread, but probably the closest 
thing to your biscuits, Sibyl. In Solomon Islands, I have friends who can make cakes in them, 
putting them between layers of hot rocks,
Helen

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